Well...since Dublin Bus seems to be suffering from terminal mismanagement, I'll raise such issues when things seem like they're improving somewhat...
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Dalkey Issues (59 better than 8, DART better than either)...??
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I see that no-one misses route 8 (highly disappointing, but as my aunt Nuala said, all the rich folk up that way all have nice cars and don't worry about riding the bus)...but since there still is bus and train service to Dalkey, I wonder just how satisfactory the populace who use it find it to be. Last time I was in Dalkey about ten years ago, the 8 was pretty heavily used. I don't imagine that the 59, which ends at Dún Laoghaire Station, would be considered important since (a) the DART already stops in Dalkey and (b) you can't get a free transfer onto bus routes 7 or 46A into the city centre anyway. Also...I noticed that the 59 no longer serves Killiney Hill Road; any outcry from abandoned passengers there? It now goes to Mackintosh Park...now, what's so special about that area? It's a dead-looking housing estate which no passengers really use, from what I've seen; a permanent bus branching off Clonkeen Road at Stradbrook Road, then running straight down towards Rochestown Avenue continuing south, would better serve people there.Posted 8 years ago #
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I'm also still waiting to hear from any users of the 7D, if any exist. This weird route, which really is related more to the 46A since it operates via Leeson Street, Donnybrook, Stillorgan and Kill Lane (the 7 goes via Ballsbridge, Blackrock and Dún Laoghaire, of course), and also, this bus only operates once a day in each direction. I might think it to be related to the 7 if it used the former route 8 corridor (both 7 and 8 used the same routing from the city centre to the corner of Glenageary Road, after all), but it's another of these routes that DB spends minimal startup costs on. The 8, by comparison, had frequency of 15 minutes at its peak, and was probably one of the most reliable of the DB routes at one time. Oh well, can't have too much traffic jamming up Glasthule Road or Ulverton Road, you know...Posted 8 years ago #
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The 59 does still serve Killiney Hill Road - in BOTH directions. As to passengers getting on at Mackintosh Park, there are always a few. The 59 seems to be working quite well despite the roadworks in Dun Laoghaire. Incidentally, Mackintosh Park is also served by the 58C as well as the 7A and some 7B services, which is I think what you suggested. It seems DB is ahead of you for once!!
[posted by: Johnno]Posted 8 years ago # -
: The 59 does still serve Killiney Hill Road - in BOTH directions. As to passengers getting on at Mackintosh Park, there are always a few. The 59 seems to be working quite well despite the roadworks in Dun Laoghaire. Incidentally, Mackintosh Park is also served by the 58C as well as the 7A and some 7B services, which is I think what you suggested. It seems DB is ahead of you for once!!
No, I do know about the long-standing 7A service (I tend to ignore the 7B since it's once a day or so)...the re-routed 7A (which used to terminate at Pearse Villas) was extended to replace the ORIGINAL route 58, which used to be a local bus running from Mackintosh Park to Ballybrack (later Shanganagh Cliffs in Shankill) via Dún Laoghaire. No, DB isn't ahead of anything, really...as most new auto-drivers can acknowledge...;)
The 59 service via Killiney Hill Road is not shown in the timetable, which seems to imply that it by-passes the area altogether to operate between Dalkey and Albert Road. There are no departure times shown to/from Killiney Hill Road, nor is Killiney shown as being served by this route in that timetable anymore, which is why I thought that service was abandoned.
I suppose that the 8 really isn't missed in Dalkey after all...? I've always thought that out of all the recent Dublin Bus cuts, this one's been the most radical and unnecessary. Usually, routes in New Jersey aren't abandoned unless there's no service on them at all, or residents of a town served by a particular route petition the bus operators to re-route or drop the service...so since the 59 was re-routed into Dalkey, the implication there was that the area still needed a bus service, but in making it a local service, they end up overloading the DART for passenger travelling into town, which is not good at all. As far as Mackintosh Park was concerned, it seemed to me that DB just dumped the terminus at that location instead of planning things in a more logical manner...just throw a dart at the map of Dublin and send the bus to the nearest turn-around point to where it lands, you know? The 59 might have ended up in Loughlinstown, by that method...
Posted 8 years ago # -
I guess the main reason for the Mackintosh Park terminus was it's proximity to the industrial estate next door and the rear entrance to the hospital beside it.
I guess the usual problem with the timetables is still prevalent ie a severe shortage of route information in the top box. With most local services the entire route is listed, but they goofed with this one!
As to the 8, in all honesty it did not surprise me as most people used it between city and Dun Laoghaire or DL and Dalkey, so the 59 is well able to cope. I would have expected more buses on the 7 to compensate though.
: : The 59 does still serve Killiney Hill Road - in BOTH directions. As to passengers getting on at Mackintosh Park, there are always a few. The 59 seems to be working quite well despite the roadworks in Dun Laoghaire. Incidentally, Mackintosh Park is also served by the 58C as well as the 7A and some 7B services, which is I think what you suggested. It seems DB is ahead of you for once!!
: No, I do know about the long-standing 7A service (I tend to ignore the 7B since it's once a day or so)...the re-routed 7A (which used to terminate at Pearse Villas) was extended to replace the ORIGINAL route 58, which used to be a local bus running from Mackintosh Park to Ballybrack (later Shanganagh Cliffs in Shankill) via Dún Laoghaire. No, DB isn't ahead of anything, really...as most new auto-drivers can acknowledge...;)
: The 59 service via Killiney Hill Road is not shown in the timetable, which seems to imply that it by-passes the area altogether to operate between Dalkey and Albert Road. There are no departure times shown to/from Killiney Hill Road, nor is Killiney shown as being served by this route in that timetable anymore, which is why I thought that service was abandoned.
: I suppose that the 8 really isn't missed in Dalkey after all...? I've always thought that out of all the recent Dublin Bus cuts, this one's been the most radical and unnecessary. Usually, routes in New Jersey aren't abandoned unless there's no service on them at all, or residents of a town served by a particular route petition the bus operators to re-route or drop the service...so since the 59 was re-routed into Dalkey, the implication there was that the area still needed a bus service, but in making it a local service, they end up overloading the DART for passenger travelling into town, which is not good at all. As far as Mackintosh Park was concerned, it seemed to me that DB just dumped the terminus at that location instead of planning things in a more logical manner...just throw a dart at the map of Dublin and send the bus to the nearest turn-around point to where it lands, you know? The 59 might have ended up in Loughlinstown, by that method...
[posted by: Johnno]Posted 8 years ago # -
this IDIOT lives in NEW JERSY so what the hell can he know about the 59 route????????????
[posted by: paddy]Posted 8 years ago # -
: this IDIOT lives in NEW JERSY so what the hell can he know about the 59 route????????????
This IDIOT used to live in Dublin, for about 9 years, so I probably know more about DB than you do, you b****x. I even remember a time before the 59 ran along Cluny Grove, do you? You probably don't remember when there was no 7, and instead there was the 7A terminating at Sallynoggin Pearse Villas. Does that knowledge have to go out of my head simply because I live in New JERSEY (and btw, please learn how to spell, you eejit)???
Thanks for replying, now go back to your bag of heroin.
Posted 7 years ago #
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