http://busrage.com/forum/ BUSRAGE Discussions Topic: Tallaght route moved en Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:13:38 +0000 http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4627#post-5078 Fri, 16 Feb 2007 09:55:37 +0000 Anonymous 5078@http://busrage.com/forum/ RA225 previously in Ringsend is AV204s replacement at Donnybrook, this is not a temporary arrangement, its a number tidy up. <br> <br>Another note, AV430 is back with Phibsboro. <br> <br><br/><em>[posted by: g]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4627#post-5027 Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:29:25 +0000 Anonymous 5027@http://busrage.com/forum/ Yes "x" <br>And Also Av204 Is In There On Loan Until New Ax&#39;s get Allocated<br/><em>[posted by: Driver A]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4627#post-5026 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 19:48:24 +0000 Anonymous 5026@http://busrage.com/forum/ As will RV502/3<br/><em>[posted by: X]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4627#post-5025 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 18:03:10 +0000 Anonymous 5025@http://busrage.com/forum/ dfx - 99D504 Is new Bus To Ringsend Garage, <br>This Is Due To Route&#39;s 2 & 3 From Donnybrook Moving To Ringsend Last Sunday! <br> <br>99D504 Will Now Be A regular Bus On allaght Route&#39;s!<br/><em>[posted by: Driver A]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4627#post-5024 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:37:16 +0000 Anonymous 5024@http://busrage.com/forum/ Forewarning: still heavy user of 56a who&#39;s run out of straw. <br> <br>Someone there^ said they were thinking of putting the 56a as a semi regular service. That&#39;d be progress from where it is now. Freezing cold wind, stuck in the Ballymount Industrial Estate, I was waiting 57 mins for a 56a. Add to that the time I wasn&#39;t waiting and you see my annoyance. For people in Crumlin or Tallaght who can get any bus, it may not seem as bad, but when the 56a is your only option, I can guarantee that I will not greet a bus with a smile in December after an hour wait. <br> <br>Here&#39;s the thing though: this was from eight to nine IN THE MORNING - rush hour! A bus came with kids for Drimnagh college who were now late and anyone needing to get into town for say 9 were late as well. 99D504 was the reg, a bus not usually on the 56a - usually an AV or RA and only one bus was seen going in the opposite direction. Shambolic, even for the restricted timetable that there is. <br> <br>Finally the timetable as it is, is caused not merely by the LUAS as suggested above. It is caused by years and years of poor service of the 56a. Once any other option was given to people they jumped ship to the LUAS understandably. Provide a better 56a in the past and they would never have left. That still leaves the poor, unfortunate and long since forgotten souls who have to get the lesser-spotted 56a today though. <br> <br>I pity us. <br>RIP 56a.<br/><em>[posted by: dfx]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4627#post-4735 Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:49:36 +0000 Anonymous 4735@http://busrage.com/forum/ any more changes of routes promised<br/><em>[posted by: qvc]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4627#post-4714 Wed, 31 May 2006 09:57:49 +0000 Richard 4714@http://busrage.com/forum/ I am told that the 15s are now operating out of Eden Quay. http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4627#post-4663 Mon, 01 May 2006 13:24:54 +0000 Anonymous 4663@http://busrage.com/forum/ People like new should be banned from using dublin bus, <br> <br>cry and cry and moan but if you were stuck with no car, only enough for the bus in the likes of blessington or dunboyne somewhere far out,with only the bus, and the odd taxi, theyd be the first to smile and be glad of the sight of the bus,and hop on it straight away. or even when its raining and its cold and they use the bus , they dont realise that theyre hypocrites. If ya dont like the bus, feckin walk! and they only complain online where they arent face to face, why dont you go into 59 o connell sreet to complain? nah youd rather just moan on this in the comfort of your own home.. dublin bus provide a good service and 99 percent of the buses are kept to high standards, so they should be applauded for their day to day work and having to put up with the likes of New.<br/><em>[posted by: gary]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4627#post-4662 Mon, 01 May 2006 12:47:42 +0000 Anonymous 4662@http://busrage.com/forum/ vehicled that where cut fromn the 77/A are actually sittin up in ringsend garage doing nothin, and are surplus to requirements, also the mystery surrounding the 151 could see the spare buses operating on the 151, also 151 now appears on ringsend dmds<br/><em>[posted by: bobbob]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4627#post-4659 Sat, 29 Apr 2006 11:22:25 +0000 Anonymous 4659@http://busrage.com/forum/ the blanchardstown route as you put it has been moved numerous times <br>from middle abbey st to lower abbey street - hawkins street so get facts right myles !! <br>at least the tallaght are have access to the luas us people who use the blanch routes everyday two oor three times a day dont have access to that plus we always get stuck in the traffice going to and from the blanch centre so we have had many changes as well <br/><em>[posted by: omac12002]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4627#post-4656 Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:59:14 +0000 Anonymous 4656@http://busrage.com/forum/ I dont know. why cant the Blanchardstown route be moved?<br/><em>[posted by: a2000]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4627#post-4654 Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:23:17 +0000 MylesKenny 4654@http://busrage.com/forum/ a2000, here&#39;s a question for u if the tallaght route moved then why cant the blanchardstown route be moved http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4627#post-4649 Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:41:55 +0000 Anonymous 4649@http://busrage.com/forum/ The upper fortunestown/fettercairn section of 56A is not served by luas. Perhaps this should be extended to Ellensborough instead of 54A. Also areas served by 77/77A are not served by luas and have suffered cuts. Where are the vehicles that operated to Tallaght and have been cut now deployed to?<br/><em>[posted by: a2000]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4627#post-4648 Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:21:06 +0000 AlekSmart 4648@http://busrage.com/forum/ Too true A2k..However the 56A remains only thanks to the eforts of local polititans like Brian Hayes who lives in Kingswood. <br>Whether we like it or not the 56A is a route which has been decimated by LUAS. <br>The loadings have simply collapsed. <br>The original Dublin Bus proposal involved truncating the route into a sortofa kindofan extended Local Link with a semi-regular service runnin as far as the Childrens Hospital. <br>Part of the problem with the route AFAICS is the inability of the company to realign or extend the route to serve the likes of City West,Saggart or even the expanding environs of Blessington. <br>Any hint of such a move would immediately invite the sanction of the Dept of Inertia (Transport). <br>This process is usually begun by a private operator objecting (or being invited to) and the Dept immediately imposing a Status Quo on the situation. <br>I am somewhat disappointed to see "New" drop his/her crusade in mid charge as I feel his points deserve consideration,as much for their evidence of Service Perception as a methodology to be considered in the planning process. <br>As he correctly observes,the worth of my job depends entirely on Dublin Buses ability to retain custom from his/her type of commuter. <br>"New"s PERCEPTION of events on Monday morning present us with a very interesting example of what Operators could or should be doing to advise customers of serious disruptions to services. <br>I know for example that both Mortons and Dualway operations suffered considerable disruption from the same incident and this disruption recognized NO differerence between private or public operator OR commuter. <br>As for the P 45`s.well the Jury remains out on that issue. <br>Recent developments on how the EU Commission views Public Subvention of Passenger Transport services are very interesting indeed and appear to indicate what could be termed a U turn. <br>This essentially comes in the face of a rather scary increase in the Total Cost of Public Transport provision which tended to be hidden by a commensurate reduction in the ACTUAL service levels Europe Wide. <br>A very revealing Press Release from Junior Minister Pat (The Cope) Gallagher last week contained a little nugget in the penultimate paragraph. <br>I would recommend any interested parties,such as "New" to visit The Copes site and search out the Press Release...It`s the one which begins with the EU wide Credit Card Driving Licence....Happy Reading..... <br>PS I think we should be trying to ensure the "New"s of the world retain the sense of outrage which stimulates good discussion ..?? http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4627#post-4647 Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:59:07 +0000 Anonymous 4647@http://busrage.com/forum/ Nobody has mentioned the many cuts to Tallaght services. 56A worst affected.<br/><em>[posted by: a2000]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4627#post-4646 Tue, 11 Apr 2006 05:25:09 +0000 Anonymous 4646@http://busrage.com/forum/ New, you initially stated you were handed a leaflet at Eden Quay and a few posts later you&#39;re complaining how noboddy approached you at Eden Quay... make up your mind! <br>As already mentioned, there has been a lot of interaction with Tallaght residents about bus services, if you didn&#39;t hear the ads on radio, read the press or see the displays in The Square then that is hardly Dublin Bus&#39; fault. <br> <br>I find it hilarious how you put down yesterdays traffic congestion to the terminus change, again, a little more research would have told you that not only your bus, but a great amount of buses were stuck in traffic because of an accident on the quays, infact one might argue if your bus was still terminating at Eden Quay, the delay would have been even longer! <br>I walk the short distance from O&#39;Connell Bridge to College Street every day, it involves crossing 3 streets, all of which have traffic lights and are pedestrian friendly, I would love to know it takes you 10 minutes? I say 4 minutes max! <br>I have often walked quicker than buses from those two locations. <br/><em>[posted by: P]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4627#post-4645 Tue, 11 Apr 2006 04:34:15 +0000 Anonymous 4645@http://busrage.com/forum/ Defintiely a case of Dublin Bus having no respect for exsiting Customers. I&#39;ll leave all you jobs worths to talk shop among yourselves. Expect P45s when the axe drops :)<br/><em>[posted by: new]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4627#post-4644 Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:03:40 +0000 AlekSmart 4644@http://busrage.com/forum/ Just clocked the front page of the Evenin Herald and found the main cause of "New"s delay and I suspect of many thousands of other "New"s ...Mind you it was only a poor Private haulier trying to earn a crust...stupid 19th century bridge builders with no vision to enable them to cater for over-height loads....I would suggest "New" contact Eamonn Casey (Hmm?) Haulage at 4123939 where he might even secure some compensation for his extended commute....better luck tomorrow !! http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4627#post-4643 Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:27:14 +0000 AlekSmart 4643@http://busrage.com/forum/ Its at least good to see that "New" is open minded enough to accept that the "Privates" are clean,better run and staffed than SOME of the public services. <br>Oddly enough as a resident of Tallaght I was fairly bombarded with Bumph and On-Bus notices as well as Radio guff about public consultations on the terminus move. <br>However whether "New" likes it or not change will happen and any developmental process will result in out-of-joint noses,not to mention disgruntlement. <br>Human beans simply don`t like change full stop.... <br>The Tallaght changes are as pointed out elsewhere part of a bigger picture and as such will require far more time than two days to gain any meaningful idea of their impact on travel patterns. <br>On balance the potential benefits which can be derived from the Grand Canal Dock link do I feel outweigh the "Serving the Northside" arguement,but again,that`s a developmental thing and will take time to impact. <br>The other factor which "New" ignores (or chooses to ) is the increasing problem of lack of integration or even minimal co-operation between the various strands of Civic Management and the major service provider,or for that matter the assorted private companies who are attempting to operate with virtually no support from a City Council which appears to believe that people CAN fly. <br>Dublin Bus is well aware of the value of Prime-Site well established Termini and U can take it that the decision to finally acceed to the City Councils increasingly strident "Requests" was not taken lightly. <br>Sadly for "New" the decisions which result in his/her 25 min defecit were taken way way back in the early 70`s when the greatest living ex-Taoiseach,CJ Haughey INSTRUCTED the board of CIE to desist from any further development of a City Centre Bus Terminal which had it materialized would have allowed the City to develop in a vastly different fashion than it did. <br>The development of the Tallaght services may yet be greatly enhanced by the Eastern extension if the very obvious choke points such as Townsend St are attended to by the City Council and/or the Gardai. <br>Its unlikely that "New" will get much change from most posters on Busrage but he/she might find a felllow traveller in one Paul Tully who can be contacted at <a href="mailto:info@xstream-pictures.com">info@xstream-pictures.com</a> <br>where it appears the disgruntled punter may be offered a speaking role in a docu-drama focusing on the awfulness of life as a commuter...worth a try I reckon...15 secs of fame etc etc ....?? <br> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4627#post-4642 Mon, 10 Apr 2006 07:03:20 +0000 Anonymous 4642@http://busrage.com/forum/ As stated already no one ever approached at Eden Quay re these events which would be an obvious point to start. <br>Took me an extra 25 minutes to get into work this morning. This points to an obvious down grading of service, strangely enough no people were on the bus when it came to Trinity, proving that there is no need for this extra service. <br> <br>Also a lot of people where calling into work on the bus to say they&#39;d be late. Well done Dublin Bus ! <br> <br>Extra time taken to get from old bus stop to new is over 10 minutes (lots of busy roads to cross at rush hour), is 2 mintues ONLY if you fly across water and roof tops - but if I could do that wouldn&#39;t have to bother with a bus ! <br> <br>Al - Have often availed of private bus services in this country, which have been clean, better run and staffed than some of the public services. <br> <br>Do any of you work for Dublin Bus per chance ?<br/><em>[posted by: new]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4627#post-4635 Fri, 07 Apr 2006 20:30:15 +0000 Anonymous 4635@http://busrage.com/forum/ <b>New</b> <br> <br>These meetings where held two or three times in the square in 2005 and I heard them announced on the radio <br> <br>btw if the long walk from Eden Quay to College Green will kill you, hows about taking the Luash....<br/><em>[posted by: D42A]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4627#post-4634 Fri, 07 Apr 2006 19:08:55 +0000 Al 4634@http://busrage.com/forum/ <p align=justify><blockquote><hr>Alas the sooner privatised the better<hr></blockquote>Looks like someone never experienced private bus operation. Expect deferred maintenance, dirty buses, no off-peak buses, even more unreliable service, cancelled routes go leor. <br></p> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4627#post-4633 Fri, 07 Apr 2006 17:02:27 +0000 Anonymous 4633@http://busrage.com/forum/ New, you will now have to walk a whole 2 minutes to College Street, it is hardly going to cause hardship for Tallaght. To say these routes served the "Northside" is stretching things slightly, they stopped at the wall of the liffey. This is a massive improvement for Tallght routes as it will connect the area closer to the huge development at Grand Canal Dock. <br>The "meetings" consisted of two weekend events, heavily advertised and took place in The Square. There are also regular community meetings between Tallaght resident groups and Dublin Bus. <br>Can you explain how expanding a route, holding public events and handing out information leaflets is treating customers with contempt? <br>This move is the first of many planned changes under the Dublin Bus network review. Along with this comes pressure from Dublin City Council to remove parked buses from City Centre termini. <br>Again to my above point, moving a bus stop across two streets does not greatly affect passengers. Bus stops get moved every other week in this city for many reasons. <br/><em>[posted by: P]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4627#post-4632 Fri, 07 Apr 2006 11:07:41 +0000 Anonymous 4632@http://busrage.com/forum/ meetings for who ? I in my 8 years of paying for this service have not been approached about my views about any such move nor seen any meetings advertised about such. The move definitely adversely affects a lot of users of this service who have not had any say - thats the "facst" man !<br/><em>[posted by: new]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4627#post-4631 Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:52:21 +0000 Anonymous 4631@http://busrage.com/forum/ Buses where moved because of DCC not the contempt of DB... Get your facst first man, btw this move has been on the cards for nearly a year and DB Held 2 meetings in the square for the public to voice there concerns....<br/><em>[posted by: D42A]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4627#post-4630 Fri, 07 Apr 2006 06:24:01 +0000 Anonymous 4630@http://busrage.com/forum/ Dublin Bus treat their users with contempt, they don t care about inconveniencing the people who pay their wages. Alas the sooner privatised the better ....<br/><em>[posted by: new]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4627#post-4628 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:53:04 +0000 Anonymous 4628@http://busrage.com/forum/ the 39 route has been moved as well <br/><em>[posted by: omac12002]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4627#post-4627 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:10:48 +0000 Anonymous 4627@http://busrage.com/forum/ Was getting bus to Tallaght today at Eden Quay and handed leaflet stating that 50/56a/77/77A were all changing routes as from Monday. It is now not possible to get on these buses from the north side. Instead of Eden Quay buses now start at Ringsend. <br>How can they do this without consulting people who use the service everyday ? <br><br/><em>[posted by: new]</em>