BUSRAGE Discussions: Forum: Rural and Nationwide

BUSRAGE Discussions: Forum: Rural and Nationwide - Recent Posts http://busrage.com/forum/ BUSRAGE Discussions: Forum: Rural and Nationwide - Recent Posts en Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:04:29 +0000 admin on "changing buses en route to Dublin?!" http://busrage.com/forum/topic/5326#post-5328 Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:09:34 +0000 admin 5328@http://busrage.com/forum/ I don't think that's the point though. Bus Eireann buses have stops much further apart than Dublin Bus buses, so it's not too much to ask for drivers to make clear announcements when stopping as to what the passengers options are at that point. This is the norm in other countries, travel with someone like National Express in Britain and you will hear drivers announcing things like "This is the stop for Birmingham, passengers intending to travel to London should change here, this bus is for the West Midlands." Passengers should be told if they need to get off the bus to change for another destination, especially for a popular destination like Dublin. The problem is compounded by a number of issues: 1. The fact that the public haven't got much trust in destination scrolls on the front of vehicles (if it has one) as these are often wrong. This is why drivers get pestered by passengers asking where the bus is going, it's not because they haven't bothered to look at the scroll, it's because they don't trust it. 2. The problem that, for whatever reason, the timetables are frequently not kept too - so you can't be sure which timetabled bus you're on. 3. The general assumption that if you are a "regular" on the bus you will be aware of it's quirks without having to be told. I regularly travelled on the 84 and 84A in the 1990s and the route frequently departed from the timetabled route. As regulars we knew it would but not everyone is a daily commuter. Anonymous on "changing buses en route to Dublin?!" http://busrage.com/forum/topic/5326#post-5327 Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:53:19 +0000 Anonymous 5327@http://busrage.com/forum/ Theres no 1000am departure. Theres a 930am to Bray only and a 1030am which by passes Bray. <a href="http://www.buseireann.ie/site/your_journey/printed_timetable_pdfs/local/133.pdf">Timetable</a> [posted by: SickCert] Anonymous on "changing buses en route to Dublin?!" http://busrage.com/forum/topic/5326#post-5326 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:57:43 +0000 Anonymous 5326@http://busrage.com/forum/ I was lucky or unlucky enough to board the 133 along with my son, from Wicklow Town last friday to go into dublin city. The lady on the phone told me the bus went through bray & into the city & I paid for that. When we reached Glen of the downs a bunch of people got on and off & I thought no more about that. The drivers had a chat & then we took off again. Later in Bray we were alone on the bus the driver was surprised we were there wondered where we were goin & when we told him said "why didnt u get off at Glen of the Downs"??!! Apparently everyone knows this, I asked him where he was goin but he wouldnt say. It was 10am & we expected 2b in the city by 10.30. The driver then hailed a dublin bus told the driver the story & we had to board that. Our original driver I imagine went for a break. We sat on the 145 for ONE HOUR & having left Wicklow Town at 9.05 arrived at stephens green at 11.00am. Bus rage I know all about it. (by car this journey takes 45 mins.) [posted by: dolly_angel] Anonymous on "Longest DB route" http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4577#post-4789 Fri, 30 Jun 2006 05:37:08 +0000 Anonymous 4789@http://busrage.com/forum/ 70x would be up there as well [posted by: qvc] Anonymous on "Longest DB route" http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4577#post-4591 Fri, 03 Mar 2006 18:04:56 +0000 Anonymous 4591@http://busrage.com/forum/ the kilcock 66 would be up there as well [posted by: a2000] Al on "Longest DB route" http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4577#post-4583 Tue, 28 Feb 2006 15:30:13 +0000 Al 4583@http://busrage.com/forum/ That's an old CIE trick...like the unreported 66 via the IMP in Barnhall and the precursor to the 66B being mixed in with the "To or from Leixlip only" journeys that would operate to either Louisa Bridge or the IMP whenever they felt like it... Anonymous on "Longest DB route" http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4577#post-4582 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 11:43:47 +0000 Anonymous 4582@http://busrage.com/forum/ It still does go via Portrane it's just not in the footnote [posted by: Daz42C] Al on "Longest DB route" http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4577#post-4581 Sun, 26 Feb 2006 18:51:23 +0000 Al 4581@http://busrage.com/forum/ <blockquote><hr>How long is the 746?<hr></blockquote>Probably about 16 miles max... Never understood why the 33 via Donabate (also via Portrane in the past). They have riders from north of Donabate? I understood this to have originally been a service to/from the hospital in Portrane for people from Lusk, Rush, Skerries, Balbriggan, but with it cut back to Donabate (and since Donabate is accessible by rail), I remain confused as to the purpose. (Why don't they build a road bridge between Portrane and Lusk anyway, and send the 33B to Rush from there...? Hmm, that sounds like a project that NIMBYs would oppose...) Anonymous on "Longest DB route" http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4577#post-4580 Sun, 26 Feb 2006 16:51:03 +0000 Anonymous 4580@http://busrage.com/forum/ Another contender is the 04.50 departure Monday - Saturday on route 33 from Balbriggan to City Centre, this bus also runs via Donabate. [posted by: P] Anonymous on "Longest DB route" http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4577#post-4579 Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:06:15 +0000 Anonymous 4579@http://busrage.com/forum/ How long is the 746? [posted by: Jodi] Al on "Longest DB route" http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4577#post-4578 Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:35:50 +0000 Al 4578@http://busrage.com/forum/ AFAIK, the 65 Ballyknockan Division is the longest, at 25 miles. The previous record-holder was also the 65, on its very-infrequent-service Donard division, at about 30 miles. (Not sure if re-routing via Rathmines and Rathgar made the trip longer or shorter?) The 33 and 84 seem to be in a tie for second place, since Balbriggan and Newcastle are about 22 miles from the city centre...don't know how the running via Greystones on the south side and Lusk, Rush and Skerries on the north side affects the total mileage...but those are the three kings there, at least out of buses that are not cross-city... Anonymous on "Longest DB route" http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4577#post-4577 Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:07:47 +0000 Anonymous 4577@http://busrage.com/forum/ Whilst enjoying the suburban sprawl tour de forve that is the 84 to Newcastle, myself and my travelling companions mused upon which is DB's longest route on a terminus to terminus milage basis. I said either 84 or 65. Does anybody know? [posted by: David] Al on "Ring Road vs. Viking Ruins (Waterford, slightly OT)" http://busrage.com/forum/topic/2257#post-2257 Sat, 15 May 2004 21:11:28 +0000 Al 2257@http://busrage.com/forum/ Per RTE news article (<a href="http://www.rte.ie/news/2004/0515/waterford.html" target="_new">link</a>). The gist is that the National Roads Authority (remember them?) want to build a ring road by-passing Waterford right on top of these newly-discovered remains of a Viking settlement. The settlement has Martin Cullen, Minister for the Environment, and Dr. Pat Wallace, director of the National Museum, on its side, with Dr. Wallace calling for the site to be excavated fully. If they can help stop the building of said road over this historic find, I'm behind them 100 per cent. Anything to stop Ireland from looking more and more like New Jersey... Al on "Bus Éireann "Nightrider" service...?" http://busrage.com/forum/topic/1313#post-1313 Fri, 05 Sep 2003 18:42:21 +0000 Al 1313@http://busrage.com/forum/ Looked at <a href=http://www.buseireann.ie/site/news_centre/travel_reports.asp?action=view&news_id=155>this page</a> on the Bus &#201ireann web siteapparently, this is a NiteLink-like service for people going between Dublin and Drogheda, with outbound buses running as late as 3 a.m. Meanwhile, Iarnród &#201ireanns last train from Connolly to Drogheda departs at 10:24 p.m. Whats wrong with this picture? Al on "rural bus service is a joke" http://busrage.com/forum/topic/430#post-454 Thu, 11 Apr 2002 04:52:09 +0000 Al 454@http://busrage.com/forum/ : hardy-bloody-ha at kerryman joke... never heard that 1 before... (sarcasm in case yey dubs dont get that!) : JaneNo problem about the sarcasm...but the way CIE runs, I'd figure that the joke applied to their employees, no matter what bloody county they hail from (even County Union, in New Jersey, where I'm living right now, but hopefully, not much longer) Anonymous on "rural bus service is a joke" http://busrage.com/forum/topic/430#post-450 Mon, 08 Apr 2002 18:24:49 +0000 Anonymous 450@http://busrage.com/forum/ Al, there was a dingle-tralee rail service 'back in the day' but its long gone. dont think theyde be too big on the idea of it again. i dont think wed need it if there was a adequate bus service as it was, but lets faceit thats not gonne happen in my or your life-time.hardy-bloody-ha at kerryman joke... never heard that 1 before... (sarcasm in case yey dubs dont get that!) Jane [posted by: Jane] admin on "rural bus service is a joke" http://busrage.com/forum/topic/430#post-447 Sat, 06 Apr 2002 14:59:14 +0000 admin 447@http://busrage.com/forum/ : IM SORRY DAVID & ARMITAGE! am i forgiven???No apology neccessary, I know how frustrating it can be dealing with public transport all over the country. One purpose this site is supposed to serve is the letting off of a little steam, so don't worry.As far as national bus and rail services go, I agree they're really bad, although thankfully I don't have to rely on them much. In any case, it would be good if CIE kept to their own timetables, at least then we'd know where we stood.All this brings back memories of a really bad journey from Dublin to Ballybunion I attempted, oh god, the hassle! Al on "rural bus service is a joke" http://busrage.com/forum/topic/430#post-442 Sat, 06 Apr 2002 04:33:49 +0000 Al 442@http://busrage.com/forum/ : However, perhaps it might be an idea to include a national section on this site, so users outside of Dublin can register their own comments? Hmm...and here I thought that such was the case, what with the "Bus Rage" logo resembling the CIE logo...? I'm pleased to hear Jane's tale of woe from out in Dingle, that is, pleased to hear from out there but not so pleased at her ordeal. More bureaucratic b****xing by the Fláthiúlí up in Baile Átha Cliath; the (supposedly connecting) bus arrives ten minutes after the train departs. (No offence, but it reminds me of a joke, which was in a Kerryman-joke book, where a passenger enters Tralee station asking when the next train to Dublin leaves, and the ticket agent replies "The next train to Dublin just left a minute ago"...)(Maybe this is a good call to get the Tralee & Dingle railway rebuilt?)All together now: "CIE are robbery, doo-dah, doo-dah..." ;-) (echoes of "Camptown Races" in the background) Anonymous on "rural bus service is a joke" http://busrage.com/forum/topic/430#post-441 Fri, 05 Apr 2002 23:53:22 +0000 Anonymous 441@http://busrage.com/forum/ Hi Jane I'm glad you got back to us, as I was feeling bad about my original comments - thanks for that.However, perhaps it might be an idea to include a national section on this site, so users outside of Dublin can register their own comments? Something to think about maybe.I think we all have a lot of anger that we could channel into a consumer group too... Something to consider too. Have a great weekend! [posted by: David] Anonymous on "rural bus service is a joke" http://busrage.com/forum/topic/430#post-440 Fri, 05 Apr 2002 20:35:13 +0000 Anonymous 440@http://busrage.com/forum/ hi, jane here. i know what youre all thinking, the bitch is back!but id like to apologise also. Fiona was right in what she said, and thanks there for defending me there Fi! it was in NO WAY my intention of attacking this web-site, saying IT was a waste of space. what i meant to say (and i wish now id phrased it better!) was that it was a waste of time posting all these discussions and talking about our problems if the relevant services did not reply or even take notice of what we are saying. i also want to commend those involved in the setting-up and maintenance of this site, i sincerely did not intend on attacking your good work, and hope you understand what i MEANT to say now!IM SORRY DAVID & ARMITAGE! am i forgiven??? Jane ps - David, apology accepted! [posted by: Jane] Anonymous on "rural bus service is a joke" http://busrage.com/forum/topic/430#post-439 Fri, 05 Apr 2002 16:15:49 +0000 Anonymous 439@http://busrage.com/forum/ I do think that we are all frustrated with our public transport service, and that BusRage is a good way of venting that frustration. It would be good to have an ADVOCACY GROUP (mentioned before) to put our opinions to those who can do something about them. It would be great to include those people, like Jane, outside of Dublin who have to rely on CIÉ for their travel arrangements - I think a united and well-organised front would (eventually) put pressure on those in the various CIÉ agencies who ignore our feelings at the moment.I would like to apologise to both Jane and Fiona if my comments were upsetting also. [posted by: David] Anonymous on "rural bus service is a joke" http://busrage.com/forum/topic/430#post-438 Fri, 05 Apr 2002 14:10:07 +0000 Anonymous 438@http://busrage.com/forum/ i dont think Jane was attacking this web-site as such, just frustrated (and rightly so) at her situation. this web-site is all good and well, and i commend all those involved in its creation, but discussion doesnt always lead to change which is what is wanted. if her anger is misplaced then so is all the other discussions posted here. i must remind you that she said that she wanted those RESPONSIBLE to reply to her (ie Bus Eireann) and not the web-site. the fact that she got response from them shows that they do not look here to better their service. therefore in that respect it was a waste of her time to post a discussion at all, as no reply or solution of any kind was given. forgive me if i came across rude or abrupt in any way before, Fiona [posted by: Fiona] Anonymous on "rural bus service is a joke" http://busrage.com/forum/topic/430#post-437 Fri, 05 Apr 2002 13:57:55 +0000 Anonymous 437@http://busrage.com/forum/ My comments referred to the complaint about this website, not Jane's issues with Bus Éireann, with which I totally agree. I wanted to point out that the anger about the BusRage website was misplaced, and should have been directed at Bus Éireann, not a discussion page run voluntarily. [posted by: David] Anonymous on "rural bus service is a joke" http://busrage.com/forum/topic/430#post-436 Thu, 04 Apr 2002 18:23:48 +0000 Anonymous 436@http://busrage.com/forum/ no need to be so sarcastic and rude David. i agree totally with Jane. you say this is a public forum so people can air thier grievances? what good is airing? have you seen ANY changes since this discussion board was introduced? was anything here taken into considerantion by those responsible? has our bus service become any more reliable or competant even? honestly, NO.if this is about 'airing grievances' then LET jane air hers without jumping on her for doing so. she cant speak about the whole country as you say, only her own experiences which i agree are a disgrace.rural bus services ARE a joke. Here here Jane!!! [posted by: Fiona] admin on "rural bus service is a joke" http://busrage.com/forum/topic/430#post-435 Thu, 04 Apr 2002 15:42:33 +0000 admin 435@http://busrage.com/forum/ Meaningless waste of space?C'mon Jane, don't be giving us a hard time, get CIE to allow us to alter the timetables and we'll sit down for a year, hold public consulations, and come up with transport schedules that suit people better.As it is, this site can only bring to light and discuss problems and solutions for our public transport system. Hopefully someone from buseireann has seen your problem, but if not, you can always write to bus eireann directly.I hope you have better luck with the buses in Kerry in future. <ul><li><a href="mailto:info@buseireann.ie">Bus Eireann</a></ul> Anonymous on "rural bus service is a joke" http://busrage.com/forum/topic/430#post-433 Wed, 03 Apr 2002 23:38:27 +0000 Anonymous 433@http://busrage.com/forum/ Erm... what do you want love, sympathy? We're all in the same boat, no matter where in Ireland we try to travel, so this website is not a waste of space. It is a free space where we can air grevances and discuss transport-related issues. Have you tried complaining to Bus Éireann? I know it won't get you far, but at least you will be having a go in the right direction. [posted by: David] Anonymous on "rural bus service is a joke" http://busrage.com/forum/topic/430#post-430 Wed, 03 Apr 2002 17:48:46 +0000 Anonymous 430@http://busrage.com/forum/ the bus service from dingle to tralee is an absolute farse. every sunday night (and bank-holiday mondays) i have to travel back up from dingle to dublin, a long enough jouney without the added problem of the incapable Bus Eireann.the latest train leaves Tralee at 17.05 yet the Dingle bus only reaches Tralee at 17.15. the alternative to driving the hour twice every weekend would be to get the earlier bus at 1300, which would leave 3 hours wasted in Tralee town. if i do so the entire day is ruined and spent traveling.could you PLEASE not alter the timetable even slightly so that it would arrive on time for the last train?? could somebody in Bus Eireann please read and reply to this and explain why you wish to put us comuters at a huge inconvenience. if this isnt taken into consideration then this web-site is meaningless waste of space. anyone agree??? [posted by: jane]