http://busrage.com/forum/ BUSRAGE Discussions: Forum: Light Rail - Recent Posts en Sat, 06 Sep 2008 03:04:53 +0000 http://busrage.com/forum/topic/1164#post-5340 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:35:08 +0000 Al 5340@http://busrage.com/forum/ <p>How things have changed over four years. (What's with resurrecting an old post?)</p> <p>Platform 11 have turned out to be government shills/plants. They now go by the name "<a href="http://www.railusers.ie">Rail Users Ireland</a>" and have backed off a lot of their initial positions that they used to support (Western Rail Corridor, railfreight, any coherent spending on new rolling stock, network expansion in general, mainline electrification, operating speeds on par with the "big countries" of the EU) and have shown themselves as cheerleaders for the status quo (Luas, Metro, <strong>noisy Intercity DMUs,</strong> intercity trains no faster than 100 mph, the words of consultants are "gospel")…sad. </p> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/1164#post-5318 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:49:57 +0000 MylesKenny 5318@http://busrage.com/forum/ the minister was bertie http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4437#post-5229 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 11:04:08 +0000 Anonymous 5229@http://busrage.com/forum/ ok qvc shop in stupid land<br/><em>[posted by: RT]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4437#post-4795 Fri, 30 Jun 2006 05:44:36 +0000 Anonymous 4795@http://busrage.com/forum/ when is the luas going to cabra<br/><em>[posted by: qvc]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4437#post-4552 Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:17:46 +0000 Robert 4552@http://busrage.com/forum/ I think I agree with RBinge about connections. That service is currently very poor. I could do that to visit relatives in Blessington as the route goes quite nearby, and they could pick me up off the bus. I could then be dropped @ the stop, get the bus, and then walk from SG to Suffolk St, down by Central Bank and make my BE bus home @ the stop there on the quays. http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4437#post-4532 Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:08:15 +0000 RBinge 4532@http://busrage.com/forum/ Eek! <br> <br>A CIE company providing a connection from Sandyford Luas. Of course, DB/BAC have also carefully provided five buses a week one way only from Shankill.. <br> <br>No sour grapes then? ;-) <br> <br>One thing seems certain to me, if CIE had built Luas then there would have been proper connecting services from Sandyford. http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4437#post-4451 Sat, 03 Dec 2005 13:41:31 +0000 Anonymous 4451@http://busrage.com/forum/ There is a new shelter outside the civic offices on wood quay. Its nice. The glass is on the road side to prevent people falling under buses.. And it has a nice long seat too. Only problem is that the seat is facing the civic offices nad the shelter is enclosed at the end and so you cant see the bus coming.<br/><em>[posted by: a2000]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4437#post-4447 Fri, 02 Dec 2005 13:33:52 +0000 Al 4447@http://busrage.com/forum/ <blockquote><hr>There are plenty of busy bus stops in this city with no shelter<hr></blockquote>Oh yes, especially at City Centre termini. Not even the loading area of the Busaras is well-sheltered.<blockquote><hr>onus is on Bus Eireann to provide shelter<hr></blockquote><p align=justify>Doubt they&#39;d erect a shelter for a mere three buses in each direction.<br><br>Is the Green Line timetable accurate? Shows the time taken from Sandyford to Faiche Stiabhna (not Stiofan, he) as 22 minutes. Add the Wicklow bus to that (sans waiting for each mode) and you&#39;ve got an hour and 32 minutes tops. That typical? IE Arrow service claims to have a journey time of 1 hour 5 minutes between Connolly & Wicklow, by comparison... <br></p> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4437#post-4446 Fri, 02 Dec 2005 11:19:54 +0000 Anonymous 4446@http://busrage.com/forum/ The bus stop at Sandyford is not RPA property and therefore no responsibility to them. This onus is on Bus Eireann to provide shelter. The idea of the minimalist shelters is that you should not be waiting long enough for it to matter. There are plenty of busy bus stops in this city with no shelter.<br/><em>[posted by: a2000]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4437#post-4445 Fri, 02 Dec 2005 11:08:22 +0000 Al 4445@http://busrage.com/forum/ <p align=justify>That&#39;ll be another black mark against the RPA, who themselves are just another layer of bureaucracy in the country&#39;s public transport <strike>fiasco</strike> organisation.<br><br>There was no real reason to <i>not</i> allow IE to build the Luas lines, and it really made no sense not to build the Green Line as DART and re-connect it to Shanganagh Junction (wow, it&#39;d be serving Bray <i>now,</i> if that were the case) and build an underground tunnel to connect it with the Broadstone Line (what, DARTs to Maynooth? but they have to wait for the Interconnector before they try that, right?)<br><br>The Luas wasn&#39;t even done on the cheap, on top of all that. It does not cost less to build light-rail versus building heavy-rail, in terms of capital expenditure. But now they get to build skimpy stations and call it <i>progress</i> (they were in a hurry to get rid of trams during the 30s, though, weren&#39;t they). <br></p> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4437#post-4441 Thu, 01 Dec 2005 21:16:55 +0000 AlekSmart 4441@http://busrage.com/forum/ Because that sort of thing is only important to people who actually use the thing....and it`s not on the Degree course for Public Transport Infrastructure Engineers........ http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4437#post-4440 Thu, 01 Dec 2005 16:55:11 +0000 Richard 4440@http://busrage.com/forum/ I think there is a good case for a Luas-link from Sandyford to Bray, which I suppose your Wickla bus does up to a point. Incidentally, I am appalled by the lack of shelter at Sandyford Luas. It is a very busy pickup and drop down point both for Aircoach and for people being met or dropped by drivers, yet this all has to be done in the freezing cold and howling gales. Why hasn&#39;t anybody put up a Kiosk or shelter? http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4437#post-4437 Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:22:56 +0000 Al 4437@http://busrage.com/forum/ <p align=justify>Yes, it&#39;s an actual service, with three buses each way...<a href=http://www.buseireann.ie/site/news_centre/travel_reports.asp?action=view&news_id=386>timetable here</a>...<br><br>Anyone use this service? Seems to me to be a quite unusual setup, designed to specifically sell the Luas. Takes an hour and ten minutes to run between Sandyford and Wicklow, going via localities such as Newtownmountkennedy and Newcastle.<br><br>Of course, it is noteworthy that when the Luas Green Line was still part of the general railway network, you could ride a <i>train</i> on it all the way to Wicklow instead. But I suppose that&#39;s what happens with pee-pee-pees... <br></p> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4404#post-4404 Fri, 18 Nov 2005 16:03:12 +0000 Al 4404@http://busrage.com/forum/ <p align=justify>Was reading the <a href="http://www.unison.ie/bray_people/stories.php3?ca=38&si=1499903&issue_id=13226" target="_new">Bray People article</a> on the subject, and it seems a bit out of the realm to me. IMHO, the government blew it big-time by not making the Green Line into DART, but that&#44;s water under the bridge now, I suppose.<br><br>So now Bray is supposed to have two separate railway lines, the light-rail version (on which you used to be able to get a train to Wicklow, too) serving the new planned Town Centre, where they are supposed to be digging up the golf links. Well, in principle, I suppose it isn&#44;t so bad, but you&#44;ll have summer travellers getting confused when they end up by Main Street, of course. Hopefully, common sense might prevail and they&#44;ll put the northern end of the Green Line underground and make it part of this new "Metro", whatever that&#44;s going to look like...<br><br>Of course, this will also mean that more dents will be made in the business of the route 45 bus; I just hope they don&#44;t get rid of that and do something crazy like extend the 7B to Bray to replace it, and turning the Deansgrange/Cabinteely segment into the 7C or something...(bah, I shouldn&#44;t be giving DB crazy ideas like that) <img src=http://www.tag-board.com/smilies/sick.gif> <br></p> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/1395#post-4215 Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:38:12 +0000 Al 4215@http://busrage.com/forum/ <p align=justify>De Valera was hypnotised by the US ideal, namely roads, roads and more roads. Now that the volume of automobiles in Ireland exceeds that of the USA per square mile, it's not working out very well, eh...? I stand by most of my comments from almost two years ago, BTW... <br></p> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/1427#post-3571 Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:12:24 +0000 Al 3571@http://busrage.com/forum/ <p align=justify><i>a load of tosh all of you, moaners</i><br><br>Work for the government, do you? If not, then you ought to feel bad about being too cowardly to demand better from the government, not to mention giving them undue praise. Buy a house lately in Ireland?? I am guessing the answer to that is a resounding <b>no,</b> otherwise you'd be singing a far different tune... <br></p> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/1427#post-3570 Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:49:57 +0000 ROBEIRE 3570@http://busrage.com/forum/ a load of tosh all of you, moaners. <br>to barry,,, em the luas is brilliant and has taken alot of cars off the road and provided a better public service for many people, and o look the metro will be built, and roads have to be built we cannot live with the rubbish we have, if it wasnt for the gov we have we prob would be in a worse state http://busrage.com/forum/topic/3442#post-3442 Thu, 20 Jan 2005 23:02:38 +0000 Al 3442@http://busrage.com/forum/ <p align=justify>I have to give DB credit on that one...they kept the 90 running, despite all of the predictions that it would be cancelled like the route 8 when the Luas Red Line came on-line.<br><br>Of course, their wonderful "surplus" aided them in keeping it running, right? Yeah, right...(hey, I'm sure they gave the "DART is duplicate service" excuse when cancelling the 8; but see how it doesn't work with the route 90, which is still surviving quite well. Do the same for the 8, O DB Demigods; ye have had a "surplus" for two years running and can well afford it...) <br></p> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/2897#post-2937 Mon, 08 Nov 2004 20:19:48 +0000 Anonymous 2937@http://busrage.com/forum/ I usually refrain from posting to this forum due to the level of ignorance and stupidity displayed in some of the postings and this one is no exception but to my demise I have to say to the muppets called 51b man and David, have either of you ever driven a tram? Do you walk out in front og a 40 foot truck coming your way and expect it to stop? I bet you have done neither so until such a time that you do experience what its like do us all a favour and shut your mouth and refrain from coming out with such verbal diarrhoea!<br/><em>[posted by: ZSI 48]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/2897#post-2936 Sun, 07 Nov 2004 18:05:32 +0000 Anonymous 2936@http://busrage.com/forum/ where does one send a2000 a dictionary or a age 12 birthday cards too....Grow up.. learn to take a joke.. after al this site is a joke ain't it ..???? <br> <br>regards AD 11 off to find a life somewhere in Narnia..... :-).. see ya in the next Cartoon Bud! <br/><em>[posted by: ad11]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/2897#post-2935 Sun, 07 Nov 2004 16:40:02 +0000 Anonymous 2935@http://busrage.com/forum/ It's all Connex's fault. Who chose them anyway. May I draw your attention to Connex South East and Connex South Central, the two worst performing francises in Britain. So bad, they have both been replaced. Mabye the Gov should follow this lead...<br/><em>[posted by: David]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/2897#post-2927 Thu, 04 Nov 2004 11:16:38 +0000 Anonymous 2927@http://busrage.com/forum/ Think of the amount of deaths or injuries to passengers on the tram as a result of an emergency stop of that magnitude. The tram would then obstruct the oconnell st junction until gaurds arrived. Unlike you ad11 i have a life and sometimes have to type fast or am just not interested in the s**te that some of you come out with but feel i have to reply. You comment on things you know nothing about. <br/><em>[posted by: a2000]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/2897#post-2920 Tue, 02 Nov 2004 15:34:50 +0000 GO SHARP 2920@http://busrage.com/forum/ If a pedestrian crosses against the lights the onus is on the driver to slam on the brakes to avoid hitting him/her. The law should be changed so that the onus is on the pedestrian to get the hell out of the way! http://busrage.com/forum/topic/2897#post-2917 Mon, 01 Nov 2004 15:42:34 +0000 Anonymous 2917@http://busrage.com/forum/ and A2000 clearly can't spell and types with his/her fists..... <br> <br>Regards <br> <br>AD 11<br/><em>[posted by: ad 11]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/2897#post-2916 Mon, 01 Nov 2004 13:40:15 +0000 Anonymous 2916@http://busrage.com/forum/ tahy cant bull on without a signal. Ifg people want do die then they can continue to ignore traffic lights and continue to walk under trams.<br/><em>[posted by: a2000]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/2897#post-2915 Sun, 31 Oct 2004 18:36:19 +0000 Anonymous 2915@http://busrage.com/forum/ Connex have a crap record on safety ..it will only continue ..Thse "drivers" drive through junctions like OConnell St /Abbey St and see for your self .The dont give anybody crossing ..They just bull on through ..Watch out for a fatal coming soon!!<br/><em>[posted by: 51b man]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/2897#post-2914 Sat, 30 Oct 2004 04:26:11 +0000 Anonymous 2914@http://busrage.com/forum/ Those are odds that no bookie would set, because it's not a long shot.<br/><em>[posted by: Iósaf Blow]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/2897#post-2910 Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:15:13 +0000 Anonymous 2910@http://busrage.com/forum/ 100/1 for a st stephen's green luas crash <br> <br> <br>5 euros <br> <br><br/><em>[posted by: barry williams]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/2897#post-2897 Wed, 27 Oct 2004 05:24:17 +0000 Red Al 2897@http://busrage.com/forum/ Morning folks, <br> <br>I got up late yesterday so the crash didn't affect me. but another gobs***e hit the luas this morning and I was left standing on the platform near the square for 20 mins!!!! Grrrr <br> <br>I'm wondering will this be a daily thing, and is anyone taking bets? <br> <br>Red Al http://busrage.com/forum/topic/2814#post-2871 Sat, 16 Oct 2004 08:07:47 +0000 Anonymous 2871@http://busrage.com/forum/ Yes and any multiple tickts are always cheaper at agents than on machines. 30 day ticket is 8 EURO cheaper from an agent. Handy info for impoverished students. Not enough mark up on single and returns for agents.<br/><em>[posted by: a2000]</em>