http://busrage.com/forum/ BUSRAGE Discussions: Forum: Rants - Recent Posts en Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:28:46 +0000 http://busrage.com/forum/topic/5334#post-5360 Sat, 05 Jul 2008 02:18:39 +0000 dowdingc 5360@http://busrage.com/forum/ <p>I am one of those "Dublin Bus sucks" people. I lived in Dublin during 2001/2002, when there were far less people living here, and the 65B bus service was never on time when I wanted to get home from work. Here's an example:</p> <p>"We stopped to watch a bus go past on the other side of the road. The rain fell heavily and we both breathed a sigh of relief. The bus would be back in a moment to pick us up.<br /> We waited for another 10 minutes.<br /> ‘Where the hell is that bus?’ I snapped. ‘I’m bloody freezing out here! Where do the buggers go?’<br /> This bus stop was like the Bermuda Triangle. Double-decker buses just… vanished. How could someone make a £250,000, four metre high bus painted in vibrant blue, white and orange disappear? Maybe the driver had nicked off to the nearest pub for a drink; there was a tavern just over the next hill.<br /> I questioned a number of people about the puzzling bus disappearances. The truth was more idiotic than my pub theory. The drivers were supposed to turn around 100 metres up the road and come back to pick us up. Drivers who were running late did not turn around. They raced past, turned onto the nearest freeway and headed back into the city. The buses were completely empty.<br /> It’s the sort of efficiency drive I would expect from Sir Humphrey Appleby of the BBC’s Yes Minister series. In one episode, Appleby posted 200 administrators to a brand new hospital. No patients had been admitted and there were no doctors or nurses, because, ‘the cost would be prohibitive, Minister’." See <a href="http://www.chrisdowding.net" rel="nofollow">www.chrisdowding.net</a> for more. </p> <p>I'm not sure if the 65B route is still rotton. Hopefully most people put up with the bus to Tallaght and catch the Luas home from the Square (the Luas was only getting built when I worked here). I sympathise with anyone who has to use the 65B all the way to town. I consider myself to be environmentally aware, but it you're on the 65B, maybe you should buy yourself an old banger. </p> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/5334#post-5345 Sat, 10 May 2008 19:04:15 +0000 iyzz 5345@http://busrage.com/forum/ <p>with regard its timing. I know and accept that there will always be occasional times when buses simply cannot leave the terminus on time, but I get this bus from Hawkins St several times a week and I swear it NEVER leaves on time. In comparison to the 46a - another high frequency route - it is disgraceful - what's the explanation? </p> <p>From my local bustop (ie: not at either terminus), I've often been waiting 30 mins for a 39 even though they are supposed to go every ten minutes.</p> <p>What's most frustrating (intriuging?) about this is that I genuinely have no other complaints about other buses I take. I'm not one of these ''Dublin bus sucks!!'' people. The 37 and 70 always seem to leave the termini on time. I find the 66 and 67a pretty reliable. The 46a is excellent, as are most of the xpressos to UCD. So why is the 39 so unreliable?</p> <p>Every ten mins my arse!</p> <p>(also, why do some townbound 39s state the destination is ''westmoreland st'', not ''hawkins st'' ? I'm geussing this is because Hawkins St gets overcrowded with buses at times but this just adds to my frustration of this route!) </p> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/5202#post-5336 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:46:51 +0000 Anonymous 5336@http://busrage.com/forum/ I totally agree with the first post. The 79/a does not go as frequently as it purports to on the timetable and when I once asked the guy who seems to be in charge of the buses on the quays about this he replied with a rude and agressive retort that left me very upset. <br> <br>Now yesterday I see that the 79a is being diverted away from inchicore. This means that almost half (32 of 65) the 79/a service is being cut from going down inchicore road. <br> <br>This is crazy given that the 79/a is rarely half full (unlike the other bus serving the Model School the 78a which is always very full) and lots of people get on/off on the Inchicore road. To divert an undersubscribed bus so it doesn&#39;t go past lots of passengers is crazy. <br> <br>Also it means that coming from town and heuston station tourists will have a reduced service to Kilmainham Gaol, the HIlton and IMMA. <br> <br>It is simply crazy to make public transport less accessible to people who (despite poor service and rude attitudes) continue to use it.<br/><em>[posted by: cb]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/5202#post-5295 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:12:05 +0000 Mick Happy 5295@http://busrage.com/forum/ Does Mark Boohan have anything positive to say about Dublin Bus . Moan ! Moan! . what will he be like when the new 79A route starts up ? Fancy running Dublin Bus ? http://busrage.com/forum/topic/5202#post-5289 Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:40:33 +0000 Anonymous 5289@http://busrage.com/forum/ Have you heard about the new 79X, now there&#39;s a joke!<br/><em>[posted by: Mark Boohan]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/5202#post-5283 Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:24:14 +0000 MylesKenny 5283@http://busrage.com/forum/ would the 151 stop be far to walk http://busrage.com/forum/topic/5202#post-5274 Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:21:02 +0000 Anonymous 5274@http://busrage.com/forum/ 151 goes past not through<br/><em>[posted by: a2000]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/5202#post-5269 Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:53:50 +0000 MylesKenny 5269@http://busrage.com/forum/ Micko the question is why is the 79A going to Parkwest when the 151 goes through it http://busrage.com/forum/topic/5202#post-5216 Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:33:16 +0000 Micko 5216@http://busrage.com/forum/ Re Mark bohan and 79 Route, What a contradiction to lambast Inspectors re 79 route , given that they are the same people that regulate the 78 , 51 , 68, 69 route on Aston quay http://busrage.com/forum/topic/5202#post-5208 Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:48:38 +0000 RV520 5208@http://busrage.com/forum/ Waiting 45 Mins on a 79/a from Cherry Orchard goin into town.the Drivers just seem to leave wen they want 2 cos this has happent on a number of occasions http://busrage.com/forum/topic/5202#post-5207 Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:36:40 +0000 Anonymous 5207@http://busrage.com/forum/ Mark where do ya live? Ballyfermot? <br> <br>The 79 & A have a great service! I worked the road for 2 years and loved it! <br> <br><a href="mailto:info@dublinbus.ie!">info@dublinbus.ie!</a><br/><em>[posted by: Paul76A]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/5202#post-5204 Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:09:14 +0000 Mark Bohan 5204@http://busrage.com/forum/ Paul76A (driver?) <br> <br>As if I have any choice but to use the 79/A where I live! <br> <br>I have no confidence that any phone calls or e-mails would be followed up. <br>Please suggest e-mail address. http://busrage.com/forum/topic/5202#post-5203 Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:53:05 +0000 Anonymous 5203@http://busrage.com/forum/ Don&#39;t use the 79/A if you only going to complain. <br> <br>And complaining to an inspector is going to do nothing. Phone Head Office and complain or e-mail them.<br/><em>[posted by: Paul76A]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/5202#post-5202 Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:30:05 +0000 Mark Bohan 5202@http://busrage.com/forum/ I have been using the 79/79A service for some time now. I have never come across a route that is managed on such an ad-hoc basis. The timetable appears merely aspirational. Most (with a few exceptions) of the drivers saunter along at a lethargic pace with a view to missing their next departure time. Any enquiries to inspectors on Aston Quay are met with hostility as if one asked an impertinent question - they seem too much in cahoots with the drivers they pretend to manage. Problems cannot all be laid at the door of traffic congestion as other routes leaving Aston Quay seem to fare a lot better (51B,78A, 90 etc.etc.). It has to be a candidate for the worst most inconsistent bus service in Dublin. http://busrage.com/forum/topic/5158#post-5176 Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:23:33 +0000 padsta 5176@http://busrage.com/forum/ ahhhh how i miss the good old days, when you could get off the bus and give em a good kicking http://busrage.com/forum/topic/5158#post-5160 Sun, 27 May 2007 21:34:47 +0000 AlekSmart 5160@http://busrage.com/forum/ Recipe a la Pik Botha: <br>First,Take your Bus. <br>Then half fill it with Public Order Unit Gardai. <br>Equip your Gardai with the necessary non-lethal restraints and active disablement devices. <br>Finally simmer nicely by driving your half full bus up and down along the selected routes until the savages appear. <br>Spring your trap as often as necessary. <br>Skin,cook and consume your capture....Q.E.D http://busrage.com/forum/topic/5158#post-5159 Sun, 27 May 2007 05:29:02 +0000 SickCert 5159@http://busrage.com/forum/ Thats the problem the bus is a sitting duck, well greenhouse. Its upto the stupid fools to realise the hurt they cause. While &#39;bud2&#39; films on his phone to upload to the web. http://busrage.com/forum/topic/5158#post-5158 Sat, 26 May 2007 18:17:38 +0000 Rui 5158@http://busrage.com/forum/ Hey,I was on the 40D last nite and a rock was thrown at the bus. i didnt notice it till it smashed the window to the right of my head and the rock barely missed me and my friend. If it had hit us one of us was dead. It was a huge rock. I heard this has happened a few times. Something should be done before someone is killed. Any one else witness this? http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4925#post-4941 Sun, 01 Oct 2006 03:27:23 +0000 Al 4941@http://busrage.com/forum/ <blockquote><hr>Ok, so put simply &#39;No, I have not travelled on a bus in years, and I have as much right to speak about the current state of Dublin Bus system as a politician&#39;<hr><blockquote>I haven&#39;t travelled on a bus in years? Is that a disqualification? You don&#39;t have to be a current bus user to be concerned about bus service, you know. Heck, you don&#39;t even have to be in the country to worry about bus service in Dublin. You ever been out of the country?<blockquote><hr>Your right, private operators are not lining up to operate routes like the 116/7/8 etc. because they wont make a profit. Making a profit is for the Privateers. Dublin Bus, a public, government run subsidary of CIE, does run these routes to provide a service, something a privateer wont do, as if it doesnt line the investor/shareholders pockets, its no good.The Xpresso&#39;s and the 116/7/8 are huge sucesses to local people. I know for a fact that the 27C/X/127 leave every morning and by the time they hit the UCI they are Full. The 116/7/8 fill up on the Stillorgan QBC. <br> <br>So my solution being the big genius I am is: <br> <br>Create more routes like this to keep passengers getting from A to B and to keep people like you moaning about CIE this, Donard that, irregular bus services blah<hr></blockquote>Wow, you don&#39;t know one thing that you&#39;re talking about. Once or twice daily peak route services are the profitable ones. If DB were providing a <b>service,</b> such buses would be running as frequently as the former City Swifts and City Imps. Xpresso buses would be just as successful if they ran all day and charged regular fares&#151;and they wouldn&#39;t charge extra fare if they weren&#39;t intended to embellish the bottom line. More buses would actually attract passengers out of their cars, you know&#151;so how do you judge these buses to be "successes" when all that&#39;s resulted is a huge mire of cars on the road?<br><br>Your solution is as worthless as your flames. Stick to what you know, whatever that happens to be. http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4925#post-4940 Sat, 30 Sep 2006 20:21:00 +0000 Darren Johnson D42C 4940@http://busrage.com/forum/ Ok, so put simply &#39;<b>No, I have not travelled on a bus in years, and I have as much right to speak about the current state of Dublin Bus system as a politician</b>&#39; <br> <br>Your right, private operators are not lining up to operate routes like the 116/7/8 etc. because they wont make a profit. Making a profit is for the <b>Privateers</b>. Dublin Bus, a public, government run subsidary of CIE, does run these routes to provide a service, something a privateer wont do, as if it doesnt line the investor/shareholders pockets, its no good. <br> <br>The Xpresso&#39;s and the 116/7/8 are huge sucesses to local people. I know for a fact that the 27C/X/127 leave every morning and by the time they hit the UCI they are Full. The 116/7/8 fill up on the Stillorgan QBC. <br> <br>So my solution being the big genius I am is: <br> <br>Create more routes like this to keep passengers getting from A to B and to keep people like you moaning about CIE this, Donard that, irregular bus services blah.. http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4925#post-4938 Sat, 30 Sep 2006 14:06:27 +0000 Al 4938@http://busrage.com/forum/ <p align=justify>Let&#39;s put it this way: I&#39;ve travelled all over the Dublin Bus system long before you could ride a bus unaccompanied by parents or elder guardians. So I&#39;ve got some experience in the matter. I&#39;ve been from Donard to Balbriggan, from Newcastle County Wicklow to Oldtown, from Glencullen to Kilcock. So your question is utterly worthless&#151just like the efficacy and utility of these once-or-twice-daily routes.<br><br>I don&#39;t see any parallel private operators vying to take over and/or expand operations of such routes, so that even compounds their lack of viability.<br><br>What&#39;s <b>your</b> solution, genius, now that you&#39;ve stuck your neck out? <br></p> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4925#post-4935 Fri, 22 Sep 2006 19:53:08 +0000 Anonymous 4935@http://busrage.com/forum/ How often do you use these &#39;once-or-twice-daily routes&#39; or any route for that matter? <br/><em>[posted by: D42C]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4925#post-4929 Thu, 14 Sep 2006 02:12:00 +0000 Al 4929@http://busrage.com/forum/ <p align=justify>How is it that you are trying to rely on a bus that runs twice per day? Also, what school are you trying to access from Stepaside?<br><br>I&#39;ve written to DB about these once-or-twice-daily routes being inefficient and useless to passengers, but they aren&#39;t good listeners to the public; maybe their management only listen to the politicians, who in turn listen to their lobbyists... <br></p> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4925#post-4926 Tue, 12 Sep 2006 13:09:25 +0000 Anonymous 4926@http://busrage.com/forum/ 118 is cought up in Sandyford Industrial Estate roadworks so any buses put on this route is just empty sitting in traffic.. why not talk to Phill O Donohue in donnybrook not just anyone who anwsers the phone... <br/><em>[posted by: rage]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4925#post-4925 Tue, 12 Sep 2006 11:02:42 +0000 Michele 4925@http://busrage.com/forum/ Does anyone else have trouble with this route? i have 2 kids who try to get it home each day from school and at least once every week or 10 days it doesnt appear. when i ring donnybrook they tell me they have no driver available. only 2 buses a day from town with an interval of 2+ hours between them. it is just so frustrating. http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4719#post-4779 Fri, 30 Jun 2006 05:25:36 +0000 Anonymous 4779@http://busrage.com/forum/ put undercover cops on all 78/78a/79/206/239 buses then<br/><em>[posted by: qvc]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4719#post-4775 Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:51:53 +0000 Anonymous 4775@http://busrage.com/forum/ 206 not a problem as never any passengers<br/><em>[posted by: a2000]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4719#post-4774 Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:23:32 +0000 Anonymous 4774@http://busrage.com/forum/ put undercover cops on all 78/78a/79/206/239/210 bus<br/><em>[posted by: qvc]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4719#post-4740 Sat, 17 Jun 2006 19:37:38 +0000 Anonymous 4740@http://busrage.com/forum/ He could write into Metro.Writing letters to newspapers always solves problems ;-).Or he could be proactive and tell the gobs**tes to stop smoking.If put to them in the correct manner it can work.I&#39;ve heard many a bus driver come on the PA and regale us using true dublin wit about the offending junkbags that they get so embarressed by everyone laughin at them that they get off at the next stop.Or knock them out,whatever.<br/><em>[posted by: G]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4719#post-4739 Sat, 17 Jun 2006 07:34:04 +0000 Anonymous 4739@http://busrage.com/forum/ Can you not take a joke? Why do you think I put the smiley face at the end of my message? Jeez.....<br/><em>[posted by: DimWit]</em>