http://busrage.com/forum/ BUSRAGE Discussions: Forum: Industrial Action - Recent Posts en Sat, 06 Sep 2008 03:02:44 +0000 http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4900#post-4901 Wed, 30 Aug 2006 07:52:01 +0000 SickCert 4901@http://busrage.com/forum/ Got a few articles on this, they are in talks today - wouldnt hold breath too long. <br> <br> <br><a href="http://sickcert.proboards3.com/index.cgi?board=Scandal&action=display&thread=1156893826&page=1" rel="nofollow">http://sickcert.proboards3.com/index.cgi?board=Scandal&action=display&thread=1156893826&page=1</a> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4900#post-4900 Wed, 30 Aug 2006 07:28:26 +0000 Anonymous 4900@http://busrage.com/forum/ From the Irish independent: <br> <br>All Dublin Bus and Bus Eireann routes nationwide, including Nitelink services, will be withdrawn from 7pm as drivers take part in a public protest. Normal timetable services will resume on Friday morning. <br/><em>[posted by: Mick Phillips]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4608#post-4785 Fri, 30 Jun 2006 05:32:37 +0000 Anonymous 4785@http://busrage.com/forum/ lets party with pam<br/><em>[posted by: qvc]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4608#post-4609 Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:42:36 +0000 AlekSmart 4609@http://busrage.com/forum/ Sorry Sean,but we in the Republic decided to go for full membership of the Big-School. <br>The T`s + C`s of our Maastricht led agreement restricted our use of opt-outs,in fact it dispensed with them altogether. <br>The entire Opt Out scenario is a hot potato within the European Commission too as it feels the UK has over indulged in such stuff. <br>Be happy that we in the republic will be enjoying "More time with our Families" and "Work Life Balancing" whilst our homes and cars are being taken away by the Repo Man.... http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4608#post-4608 Tue, 21 Mar 2006 17:28:35 +0000 Sean Stephens 4608@http://busrage.com/forum/ Drivers, and other workers here in the UK can sign an opt-out on the 48 hour week, which is voluntary and means they can work longer hours, it does&#39;nt affect the rest of the working time directive, but allows people to do overtime. http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4460#post-4469 Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:37:11 +0000 Paul Hardy 4469@http://busrage.com/forum/ Kevin, you have my e-mail address and could have asked me directly: please don&#39;t pretend that we are ashamed or afraid. There is simply no news I can share as yet. http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4460#post-4467 Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:42:43 +0000 kevin 4467@http://busrage.com/forum/ I,m still waiting for an answer from Mr Paul Hardy from SIPTU about unionising Aircoach what,s the delay Paul afraid to take them on ??? http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4460#post-4463 Sat, 10 Dec 2005 10:08:52 +0000 Anonymous 4463@http://busrage.com/forum/ Amazing that SIPTU allowed its members sign a contract with a clause stating no strike and no supporting other companies in a strike. Plenty of connex staff would have attended but would have faced instant dismissal taking away thier constitutional right to strike.<br/><em>[posted by: a2000]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/4460#post-4460 Fri, 09 Dec 2005 07:48:06 +0000 admin 4460@http://busrage.com/forum/ From <a href="http://breaking.tcm.ie/" rel="nofollow">http://breaking.tcm.ie/</a> <br> <br>Ferries protest to cause major transport disruption <br> <br>Public transport services are facing major disruption this afternoon during protests against Irish Ferries&#39; plan to replace its seafaring workers with cheaper labour from eastern Europe. <br> <br>The worst of the disruption will be in Dublin, where tens of thousands of people are expected to attend a march on the Dáil. <br> <br>Dublin Bus has said it cannot guarantee services after 11am, while DART and other commuter rail services are also expected to be hit. <br> <br>Bus Éireann, meanwhile, is predicting disruption in urban areas, but said services should be running as normal this evening. <br> <br>Meanwhile, talks between Irish Ferries and SIPTU broke up without agreement at the Labour Relations Commission in Dublin early this morning. <br> <br>The negotiations are not expected to resume today because of the national day of protest arranged by the trade union movement to protest at the company&#39;s controversial "outsourcing"&#39; plan. <br> <br>Irish Ferries wants to lay off all its seafaring workers and replace them with cheaper labour from eastern Europe in an effort to reduce its costs. <br> <br>The company is believed to have threatened to withdraw the redundancy package it has offered to its existing workers unless a resolution was found by yesterday evening. http://busrage.com/forum/topic/1747#post-1749 Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:05:23 +0000 AlekSmart 1749@http://busrage.com/forum/ RS.I agree 100% with you. <br>Sadly this "Information Meeting" has far more to do with INTERNAL Siptu Affairs than with the greater scenario. <br>As an NBRU member I will not be attending as I feel that our resources should be directed towards drawing Minister Brennan from his lair and forcing him to get down to specifics. <br>Todays Meeting is little more tan Marxist/Leninists doing practice runs for Revolution Day. http://busrage.com/forum/topic/1747#post-1748 Thu, 22 Jan 2004 05:31:19 +0000 Ray 1748@http://busrage.com/forum/ To all employees of Dublin Bus. <br> <br>I hold an annual travel pass that I have paid for thru the employee deduction scheme. <br> <br>I certainly hope that there will be no disruption to the transport service as a result of this meeting. Why on earth would you want to give the Minister for Public Statements any excuse to slag DB employees off. Let the Minister do his talking to the Press while you rise above it by paying no notice to what he says outside of a discussion forum. <br> <br>Instead, a good form of protest might be for all employees in DB to send a letter to the Minister expressing their views. A few thousand letters arriving on his doorstep might soften his cough. http://busrage.com/forum/topic/1747#post-1747 Thu, 22 Jan 2004 05:09:41 +0000 admin 1747@http://busrage.com/forum/ From <a href="http://breaking.tcm.ie/2004/01/22/story130676.html" target="_new">breaking.tcm.ie</a>: <br> <br>Dublin Bus services to be disrupted by unofficial action <br>22/01/2004 - 7:47:15 am <br> <br>Dublin Bus services are expected to be disrupted for a number of hours this morning as drivers down tools to attend a mass union meeting. <br> <br>The company has advised passengers that the unofficial protest could cause "severe" disruption from 9.30am until the early afternoon. <br> <br>The union meeting was originally organised to coincide with a two-hour stoppage by SIPTU workers at Dublin, Cork and Shannon airports this morning. That stoppage was called off yesterday, but SIPTU's Dublin Bus branch decided to press ahead with today's meeting regardless. <br> <br>The meeting does not have the approval of senior SIPTU officials and Dublin Bus has vowed to deduct wages from any drivers who attend while rostered for duty. http://busrage.com/forum/topic/1682#post-1698 Fri, 09 Jan 2004 19:18:10 +0000 AlekSmart 1698@http://busrage.com/forum/ Well Well Well....A day in politics is indeed a long time. <br>In a letter to the ICTU dated today (9/1/04) our intrepid Minister for Transport states categorically that he did NOT supply ANY percrentage or time-frame figures to the reporter who ascribed them to him is the controversial article which scuppered last weeks Department/Union talks. <br>Now this esentially means the Minister for Transport is flatly accusing the reporter concerned of Fabricating the interview and of misrepresenting the Minister. <br>In essence we are being told the Reporter was Lying..... <br>This is serious stuff indeed and It will be VERY interesting to see if Oul Mr Brennans love affair with the Media has hit the buffers..?? http://busrage.com/forum/topic/1682#post-1694 Thu, 08 Jan 2004 12:44:04 +0000 admin 1694@http://busrage.com/forum/ From RTE <br> <br>[ <a href="http://www.rte.ie/news/2004/0108/cie.html" target="_new">http://www.rte.ie/news/2004/0108/cie.html</a> ] <br> <br>Potential strike action at CIÉ has been averted for now after the group of unions opted to accept an invitation to meet the Minister for Transport, Séamus Brennan, in a bid to resolve the row over the future of the company. <br> <br>However the unions stressed that their mandate for industrial action remains live. <br> <br>SIPTU national industrial secretary Michael Halpenny said that given the potential seriousness of the disruption to public transport, the unions owed it to the public to explore every avenue to resolve their differences. <br> <br>However NBRU general secretary Liam Tobin stressed that the move did not mean that the unions' trust in the minister had been restored. <br> <br>Mr Tobin said that on the day after the meeting with the minister &#8211; a date for which has yet to be arranged - the unions will decide whether to revive their plan for industrial action. <br> <br>Both SIPTU and the NBRU said that the likelihood of disruption depended on what step the minister would take to reassure them that he was serious about addressing their concerns in a constructive way. <br> <br>Aer Rianta unions to consider strategy <br> <br>Meanwhile, the group of unions at Aer Rianta is to meet tomorrow to consider its next move in its campaign against Mr Brennan's plans to break up the company. <br> <br>Union sources said they were extremely disappointed at the outcome of this week's talks with department officials. http://busrage.com/forum/topic/1682#post-1688 Wed, 07 Jan 2004 15:39:07 +0000 AlekSmart 1688@http://busrage.com/forum/ Wel Well.....What a difference a day makes. <br>Tonight we have the spectre of An Taoiseach attempting to re-establish some form of dialogue between Unions and Department. <br>Mr Aherne interestingly spoke of "THE CABINETS" desire to see talks continue following the progress already achieved. <br>This paints a picture of the diminuitive Minister For Transport sitting in a corner all huffy after the big-boys slapped his wrist. <br>It also indicates that the Senior Civil Service people have been expressing some unhappiness at the very public humiliation dished out to the General Secretary of the Dept of Transport by her Minister. <br>Bertie Ahearn is a past master at this type of intricate and delicate negotiation and he quite obviously is miffed at how such a senior Minister as Brennan managed to make a Cats Menackie of the entire process in order to satisfy a sub-editors hunger for copy. <br> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/1682#post-1683 Tue, 06 Jan 2004 15:14:38 +0000 AlekSmart 1683@http://busrage.com/forum/ The actuality here is that Brennan went off on yet another self-serving solo run with his breathless "25% of Bus Eireann Also" Independent article. <br>This was almost incredibly at odds with the Assurances given by himself AND his Departmental Negotiating Team regarding. <br>Now,whilst the Professional Civil Servants scrupulously abided by those assurances,their boss very publicly hung them out to dry with his largely nonsensical Independent Interview. <br>This is closely followed by yet another announcement re nothing as The Minister "Announces" the details of the much sought after and obligatory,Public Transport Regulator. <br>The details amounted to confirmation that 1.proposed contracts would be of 5 years duration. <br>2.The Regulator would be responsible for setting standards (!) <br>3.The Regulator would penalize or reward operators for compliance with his/her requirements. <br>4.The Regulatory Model would be based on the "Successful" Dublin Taxi Regulator model. <br>Fine so far...Yes..?? <br>THis particular piece of serious minded journalism is then seriously challenged by two items. <br>A.The revelation that Minister Brennan "INTENDS TO INTRODUCE" leglislation to set up the Regulatory Framework "In the near Future". (Whatever That represents in political terms) <br>B.The piece which was also carried in the Indo detailing how Minister Brennan had been "Forced" to reconsider the Salary Level for the New "Successful" Taxi Regulator in order to attract applicants of high enough calibre (IE: Without an active criminal record) for the position. <br>The present "Successful" Regulator upon which Seamus has modeled the Public Transport one turns out to be a somewhat Toothless "Interim" one. <br> <br>The Above catalogue of incredulity Ladies and Gentlemen represents the entirity of Regulatory or Planning thought within the Office of the Minister for Transport. <br>And people STILL wonder why This Gentleman is regarded with contempt..???? http://busrage.com/forum/topic/1682#post-1682 Tue, 06 Jan 2004 12:48:36 +0000 admin 1682@http://busrage.com/forum/ From RTE <br> <br>[ <a href="http://www.rte.ie/news/2004/0106/cie.html" >http://www.rte.ie/news/2004/0106/cie.html</a> ] <br> <br>Commuters could be facing travel disruption after the National Bus and Railworkers Union said it will not continue talks with the Department of Transport about the future of CIÉ. <br> <br>The national executive of the NBRU met for three hours today to decide the union's stance on the break-up of CIÉ. Its leadership has been mandated to take whatever industrial action is necessary to prevent the company from being broken up. <br> <br>The union will not outline what form industrial action might take but it may involve a series of one-day work stoppages. <br> <br>A Department of Transport spokesman said Minister Séamus Brennan had a right to articulate his policy position, and said that did not have to conflict with ongoing negotiations. <br> <br>The CIÉ group of unions is due to meet on Thursday to decide its next move. The unions are due to meet Department of Transport officials next week but those talks may not now go ahead. http://busrage.com/forum/topic/1393#post-1393 Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:41:05 +0000 admin 1393@http://busrage.com/forum/ [ from <a href="http://www.rte.ie/news/2003/1016/buses.html" target="_new">http://www.rte.ie/news/2003/1016/buses.html</a> ] <br> <br>Bus services across the North are expected to be cancelled tomorrow (Friday 17/10/2003) because of a strike by drivers and other Translink staff. <br> <br>Citybus and Ulsterbus services will be affected. <br> <br>Talks between union representatives and Translink management yesterday failed to resolve the issue, although negotiations are continuing. <br> <br>see alse: <br> <br><a href="http://www.examiner.ie/breaking/2003/10/15/story117478.html" target="_new">Examiner.ie</a>, <a href="http://icnorthernireland.icnetwork.co.uk/news/local/content_objectid=13520647_method=full_siteid=91603_headline=-Strikes-to-Halt-Buses-name_page.html" target="_new">icnorthernireland</a>, <a href="http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/story.jsp?story=453700" target="_new">Belfast Telegraph</a>. http://busrage.com/forum/topic/1108#post-1128 Thu, 19 Jun 2003 08:10:09 +0000 Noel 1128@http://busrage.com/forum/ Hi, <br> <br>Have to agree with the DonnyBrook Observer. I am a daily commuter (and annual bus/rail pas holder) and believe that privatisation of DB will be a disaster. I believe that a Public Transport system should be exactly that, but not for any ideological reasons (I&#8217;m a B.Comm!!) but simply because a public transport system is only one part of the equation, road infrastructure/usage/schools, etc also have to be considered and if the buses are run by private companies the Public Authorities will have little or no say in how they (the companies) do things and before anyone mentions fearsome regulator with big stick, can I just say, Central Bank &#8211;&#8220;recommendations to mortgage lending institutions re multiples of income,- warnings of over fuelling borrowing &#8211; pinch of salt!!!) <br> <br>When (if?) DB strike, I will be one of those who will suffer (I&#8217;ll probably have to use up my annual leave) and this will only antagonise those like me who are on the workers side. Seamus Brennan will not suffer, the only time he&#8217;s on a bus is for a photo shoot!! DB should draw up proposals of how private companies will do things and highlight specific instances of how the public will suffer, and get these into the media. Don&#8217;t make it sound like they are only against privatisation because their employees will lose out, it&#8217;s the public they should be defending! <br> <br>Noel <br> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/1108#post-1116 Sun, 15 Jun 2003 19:29:43 +0000 Anonymous 1116@http://busrage.com/forum/ Indeed, I would think that a more considered media campaign would be the way for the unions to follow here, highlighting the flaws associated with privatisation rather than getting commuters' backs up by taking direct action. This whole plan is still being formulated - I suspect rather badly - and the unions should be trying to influence that rather than simply taking protest action.<br/><em>[posted by: Donnybrook Observer]</em> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/1108#post-1109 Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:33:38 +0000 Al 1109@http://busrage.com/forum/ <p align=justify><font face="times new roman" size=2>Well, let&#146;s put it this way&#133;most likely if not for the misbehaviour of bus operations that has been on record even on this forum, there would be less of a reason for Brennan to seek privatisation. Now, mind you, he probably had this privatisation scheme as his goal all along, but the mis-handling of operations has given him a leg to stand on in that regard.<br><br>Now, I don&#146;t know myself what was the source of all this bad operations which has so far driven many commuters into cars (pardon the unintended pun), but if the union leadership commanded it, then they have merely shot themselves in the foot, IMHO. If, however, this was the edict of the management side of things, then the unions are a bit late in calling the CIE management to the carpet over this.<br><br>Either way, the only result of more union action would be to create more car commuters&#133;unless there is also some union reform. <br></font></p> http://busrage.com/forum/topic/1108#post-1108 Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:27:35 +0000 admin 1108@http://busrage.com/forum/ From: <a href='http://breaking.tcm.ie/2003/06/13/story102502.html' target='_new'>http://breaking.tcm.ie</a> <br> <br>Unions representing workers at CIE have agreed a campaign of industrial action to oppose the Government's plans to break up the company and privatise 25% of Dublin Bus routes. <br> <br>SIPTU, the ATGWU and the National Bus and Railworkers Union have claimed that the plans would cost hundreds of millions of euro to implement and would lead to jobs losses and a deterioration in the service provided to consumers. <br> <br>The three unions have threatened to cause a "summer of discontent" unless Transport Minister Seamus Brennan agrees to change the plans - something the minister has refused to do. <br> <br>The CIE unions agreed today to hold a 'no-fares' day on Friday, July 18, when the public will be allowed to travel for free and will be issued with information leaflets about the CIE break-up instead of tickets. <br> <br>A national day of protest will also be held on August 19, with demonstrations arranged for towns and cities throughout Ireland. <br> <br>The CIE unions said they would escalate the campaign later in the autumn and during Ireland's presidency of the EU next year if the Government insists on pressing ahead with its plans. <br> <br>NBRU spokesman Liam Tobin said: "The unions have agreed a co-ordinated and concerted campaign. All of them have a mandate for industrial action to stop the minister from carrying out his plans."