Comments on: Dublin Metro standards will be high, claim RPA http://busrage.com/2008/07/09/dublin-metro-standards-will-be-high-claim-rpa/ It's time for an exact change Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:21:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Al http://busrage.com/2008/07/09/dublin-metro-standards-will-be-high-claim-rpa/#comment-71 Al Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:55:37 +0000 http://busrage.com/?p=86#comment-71 PS. Before anyone decides to shoot me, the length of the eight-car DART I cited above should be 550 feet, not metres. (The length is close to double that of your "Metro" trains, though.) PS. Before anyone decides to shoot me, the length of the eight-car DART I cited above should be 550 feet, not metres. (The length is close to double that of your “Metro” trains, though.)

]]> By: Al http://busrage.com/2008/07/09/dublin-metro-standards-will-be-high-claim-rpa/#comment-70 Al Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:21:26 +0000 http://busrage.com/?p=86#comment-70 Oh yeah...since this is a bus-oriented web site, just want to remind all that buses are 2.5 metres wide on average (the Atlanteans certainly were), so your 2.4-metre-wide trams are more cramped inside than a bus. One of the customary features of rail vehicles is supposed to be greater width than a bus, right? Most IE coaches (including DART) are on average 2.9 metres wide. (The Park Royals were 3.1 metres wide, which is approaching US loading gauge.) Lots of places running trams that are close to 2.7 metres wide, on standard-gauge tracks. Oh yeah…since this is a bus-oriented web site, just want to remind all that buses are 2.5 metres wide on average (the Atlanteans certainly were), so your 2.4-metre-wide trams are more cramped inside than a bus. One of the customary features of rail vehicles is supposed to be greater width than a bus, right? Most IE coaches (including DART) are on average 2.9 metres wide. (The Park Royals were 3.1 metres wide, which is approaching US loading gauge.) Lots of places running trams that are close to 2.7 metres wide, on standard-gauge tracks.

]]> By: Al http://busrage.com/2008/07/09/dublin-metro-standards-will-be-high-claim-rpa/#comment-69 Al Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:27:11 +0000 http://busrage.com/?p=86#comment-69 Disband the RPA already. Bad enough they've made a duplicate railway system that is not interoperable with, and cannot be readily converted to, DART; never mind building street-running in the busiest parts of the city. Now they want to make what is in effect a "subway-surface" tram system (to use the US term) that will, like Luas, be a victim of its own success and not be expandable. (If they need to run eight-car DARTs already, which close to <i>550 metres</i> in length, what good is a puny 90-metre vehicle going to do? (The 40-metre Luas trams can hold what, 200 passengers? so we're up to 400 passengers, when you need trains that have capacity for over 1,000 passengers?) What high standards. Not. Disband the RPA already. Bad enough they’ve made a duplicate railway system that is not interoperable with, and cannot be readily converted to, DART; never mind building street-running in the busiest parts of the city. Now they want to make what is in effect a “subway-surface” tram system (to use the US term) that will, like Luas, be a victim of its own success and not be expandable. (If they need to run eight-car DARTs already, which close to 550 metres in length, what good is a puny 90-metre vehicle going to do? (The 40-metre Luas trams can hold what, 200 passengers? so we’re up to 400 passengers, when you need trains that have capacity for over 1,000 passengers?)

What high standards. Not.

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